Curse

TheRaven · Aug 15, 2007, 01:58 PM // 13:58

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Originally Posted by hyro yamaguchi

Be a ranger, or ranger secondary, and have the char deathlevel on your pet.

Have you read this thread at all? Have you read any deathleveling guides? For the gazillionth time, PET DEATHS DO NOT DEATHLEVEL!

Tom Swift · Aug 15, 2007, 02:03 PM // 14:03

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Originally Posted by TheRaven

Ooooh, I have an idea! This might actually work too.

Go out with a Level 20 mm. If the mm has been able to obtain a Superior Death Magic Rune (possible with charr salvage kit?) they can create a level 14 bone horror. The mm then dies leaving a very wild and angry bone horror behind for you to kill.

So, am I close?

Interesting - can anyone verify if you get xp from wild minions a member of your party created? If so, this would be possible as a lvl 20 necromancer can create a lvl 14 bone horror without needing a superior rune. And this would not be an exploit since you are using a legitimate skill and not a bug in the program.

TheRaven · Aug 15, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19

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Originally Posted by Tom Swift

Interesting - can anyone verify if you get xp from wild minions a member of your party created? If so, this would be possible as a lvl 20 necromancer can create a lvl 14 bone horror without needing a superior rune. And this would not be an exploit since you are using a legitimate skill and not a bug in the program.

I think you can get exp from anything you kill. Spirits, minions, enemies, anything. I'm at work currently with no access to the game. I'll verify once I get home.

I think the tricky part would be killing the Level 20 MM before the minion died. Are Vamp weapons available in pre legitimately? What about the Necro skills? Any health saccing skills like Blood of the Master in Pre?

I admit, I'm not too familiar with Pre-searing yet. I made a Pre character this week after reading (and starting a few) all these Pre threads. I've always wanted to try for survivor and ldoa on the same character, but until recently I've always assumed it was impossible. Now I'm actively researching the issue.

So, I now have a level 6 Elementalist in Pre. She's completed only 2 quests and I'll continue to level her as far as possible without dying. If I run into a brick wall, I'll keep her survivor title intact and wait for possible game updates that will make these titles possible thru legit means.

emoxcore · Aug 15, 2007, 02:29 PM // 14:29

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Originally Posted by TheRaven

I think you can get exp from anything you kill. Spirits, minions, enemies, anything. I'm at work currently with no access to the game. I'll verify once I get home.

I think the tricky part would be killing the Level 20 MM before the minion died. Are Vamp weapons available in pre legitimately? What about the Necro skills? Any health saccing skills like Blood of the Master in Pre?

I admit, I'm not too familiar with Pre-searing yet. I made a Pre character this week after reading (and starting a few) all these Pre threads. I've always wanted to try for survivor and ldoa on the same character, but until recently I've always assumed it was impossible. Now I'm actively researching the issue.

So, I now have a level 6 Elementalist in Pre. She's completed only 2 quests and I'll continue to level her as far as possible without dying. If I run into a brick wall, I'll keep her survivor title intact and wait for possible game updates that will make these titles possible thru legit means.

You cant get exp from minions..i allready tried this with my MM in pre..shes lvl 20

TheRaven · Aug 15, 2007, 02:52 PM // 14:52

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Originally Posted by emoxcore

You cant get exp from minions..i allready tried this with my MM in pre..shes lvl 20

Awww, well it was a good idea while it lasted. I guess if it was that easy, someone else would have already thought up the idea.

Ok, I'll just have to keep thinking. If Drop of Fear isn't just bluffing and she really has a method then it's out there somewhere. From her posts, here is what I know....

- You go with a Level 20 friend (or 2nd account)
- This method is done while AFK which strongly implies deathleveling.
- No hard rezzes in Pre and Drop of Fear has stated that she is not using a tome to obtain a hard rez. (But since this is an AFK method, she isn't standing there rezzing her level 20 friend anyways)

So, somehow her friend is getting rezzed by other means? I can't think of anything there. Are there any NPC characters with a hard rez in Pre? I know that you do team up with others for certain quests (Gwen, Devona, Egg stealer dude, etc). I seriously seriously doubt that any of them have hard rezzes, but like I said there is alot about pre that I don't know yet.

Tom Swift · Aug 15, 2007, 04:50 PM // 16:50

Ok

Well if it is an npc then maybe we can narrow the search a litte

It would have to be a monk type, wouldn't it? I think in prophecies only the monks have any kind of hard res.

However, it would not have to be someone you allied with as the monks at the shrines heal you even though you were not partied with them - so it could be an npc that you just have to die near but who would not attack the foe.

There is probably a charmable animal in the area because many npcs like academy monks attack "enemies" and some animals but not most antagonized charmable animals. (or rather - they will attack wolves and spiders but not striders)

bobrath · Aug 15, 2007, 05:25 PM // 17:25

I know there's a healer by rez shrine near the apple chasing spiders. I know that cause I've used her to allow my low level to tank a massive army of baddies without dying.... Operative problem being the not dying part.

Tom Swift · Aug 15, 2007, 05:40 PM // 17:40

I doubt it would be an academy monk since that would have been noticed by now.

Other monks that I know of

Lina the healer and Sarah at Ascalon village (both of these would have been noticed before)

Mehnlo is visible inside the abbey fence from outside but I think he is too far from the fence to use any res if he has it. (Although, why is he there - he is not in the same place he is when you are in the Abbey so it had to be intentional and not just an accident that you would be able to see him - why not be able to interact with him? Hmmm sometimes enemies can come over to one explorable are from another - Avicarra coming into Tasc's Demise from Mineral Springs, for instance. Is there some way to lure him into Lakeside, perhaps? And, if so, does he have a res? He does have restore life when he is a henchmen in prophecies - does he have it here? Hmmmmm)

Paulus the Abbot during monk's mission but i think he is a smiting monk would kill anything that came near him.

Grazden the Protector during the quest protection prayers (tried him out - he doesn't seem to have any rez)

Ciglo the Monk during the monk test (tried to lure a bad guy close enough to kill me in rez range but couldn't get them to follow me that far)

And, of course, Gwen.

Also tried dying near Melandru's shrine and the healing spring - thought maybe one them had an auto rez - no go

«Ripskin · Aug 15, 2007, 09:01 PM // 21:01

Yes, but gwen is a noob, and should not be trusted with a hard rez.

And I made a Ldoa character, I'm really bored with her right now. Mainly because I know, eventually, that it will take thousands of exp to level, and those 4 charr that are level 19 only give about 100-200 a piece. Which makes me think that I do NOT want to afk about 40-50 times just to get a stupid title.

There's better titles then that imo, explorer, skill hunter, drunkard, etc etc. My casual playing self is going to finish doing titles like that.

Captain Jordan · Aug 15, 2007, 09:32 PM // 21:32

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Originally Posted by «Ripskin

There's better titles then that imo, explorer, skill hunter, drunkard, etc etc.

You're not fooling anyone, you only say that because you can't get the title.

One problem that arises from getting both titles is the fact that the person going for the title will have to be very careful when ressurecting their partner so as to not aggro the Charr and die. I think anyone going for the title will eventually die accidentally.

My Sweet Revenga · Aug 15, 2007, 10:24 PM // 22:24

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Originally Posted by TheRaven

If that's the case, then Drop of Fear is using the exact method that I outlined in my original post.

- Remove all the tomes and other items that entered pre thru the hack.
- Remove the skills learned by the tome users.
- Close the PermaPre kidnapping exploit (other thread)

Drop of Fear seemed to imply in his post that he was using an entirely different method to achieve both titles. I hope that is the case and if so, I wish him well. If he's just using the hack or bought a tome from a hacker then I have no respect for his accomplishment.

Heh. Wouldn't it be funny if he's actually exploiting the reconnect feature. Prepare with 1 account char already with ldoa, and the other account char which will be aiming to get both titles. Intentionally disconnect/lagout the char getting both titles, that way if the ldoa char dies, he should be able to respawn. From some user accounts, the reconnect feature can be used up to at least 10 minutes after the initial lag out. Use the ldoa char to death level the charr (or whatever enemy mob). As soon as the creatures are high enough level, reconnect the 2nd char and kill the levelled creatures to split the XP. This certainly does sound like a slow as hell method to do it.

Too bad the reconnect feature has been disabled for now, otherwise it could be tested

«Ripskin · Aug 15, 2007, 11:15 PM // 23:15

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Originally Posted by Captain Jordan

You're not fooling anyone, you only say that because you can't get the title.

Damn

And actually I think that all the others are just better then GRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDAFKAFKAFKGRINDAFKAFKAFKGRIND etc etc.

Meat Axe · Aug 16, 2007, 12:19 AM // 00:19

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Originally Posted by My Sweet Revenga

Heh. Wouldn't it be funny if he's actually exploiting the reconnect feature. Prepare with 1 account char already with ldoa, and the other account char which will be aiming to get both titles. Intentionally disconnect/lagout the char getting both titles, that way if the ldoa char dies, he should be able to respawn. From some user accounts, the reconnect feature can be used up to at least 10 minutes after the initial lag out. Use the ldoa char to death level the charr (or whatever enemy mob). As soon as the creatures are high enough level, reconnect the 2nd char and kill the levelled creatures to split the XP. This certainly does sound like a slow as hell method to do it.

Too bad the reconnect feature has been disabled for now, otherwise it could be tested

That's not possible. When disconnected, your character is still in the game, it just isn't doing anything. Someone with a disconnected partner won't resurrect, since a res shrine requires everybody to be dead.

I am quite interested to find out how Drop of Fear would be doing this. However, I would never actually try it. I got my LDoA, and I'm getting Legendary Survivor on another char, and I'm hoping that the Hall of Monuments is account based (since in the screenshot of the armour monument, it shows armours of different classes as well as different genders, I'm thinking that this is a possibility).

Linksys · Oct 09, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Tomes i pre-searing? One way to fix that. Anet can make only skills available in pre-searing work in pre-searing.

October Jade · Oct 09, 2007, 09:31 PM // 21:31

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Originally Posted by Linksys

Tomes i pre-searing? One way to fix that. Anet can make only skills available in pre-searing work in pre-searing.

"I'm casting Banish on Linksys!"

Seriously...this thread has been inactive for almost two months. Why bring it back now? It's not like having tomes in presearing is going to ruin all of GW. I'd place this issue somewhere around #812 on the list of things that require ANet's attention.

Linksys · Oct 09, 2007, 09:32 PM // 21:32

I didn't know the last reply was from August. I saw this thread linked in another thread and thought it was still active too. I'd appreciate if I don't get banned because Jade called for it since it was an accident on my part.

TheRaven · Oct 09, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36

lol, I'd forgotten about this thread. Hey Drop of Fear, are you out there reading this? How's the title hunt coming?

Regarding tomes, A-net already fixed this about a month or 2 ago. There was a loophole in which tomes (and other high-end non-pre items) were smuggled into pre somehow. I'm not sure of the exact method used, only that it involved mapping to the battle isles somehow.

A-net closed the loophole and banished all characters in pre with the contraband items. I think they sent all the characters to post.

Drop of Fear · Oct 09, 2007, 09:44 PM // 21:44

not going good. i pushed it hard trying to afk it and miserably died at level 17 1/2. then eotn came i saw that HoM is character based, sadly.
gonna try again after eotn hard mode, to kill time till guild wars 2.

October Jade · Oct 09, 2007, 09:44 PM // 21:44

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Originally Posted by Linksys

I'd appreciate if I don't get banned because Jade called for it since it was an accident on my part.

I was just being sardonic. No need to worry; I do not have those sorts of powers anyway. I'm simply another Joe Forumgoer like most everyone else here.

*ponders schemingly*

Though if I did, I'd probably save my harshest castigations for offenses much more egregious than this.

Linksys · Oct 09, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Okay I didn't see that at first. I just read in the other thread concerning presearing that the original poster actually got banned in Guild Wars because someone else said he had tomes in there. If I checked to see the date of the last post, I wouldn't have replied to this one. I never intentionally bring up old threads.